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Grateful Dead Live at Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden on 1971-12-06


Topics Live concert


Truckin', Loser, Mr. Charlie, Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider, Run Rudolph Run, El Paso, Tennessee Jed, Mexicali Blues, Black Peter, Next Time You See Me, Casey Jones Big Railroad Blues, Me And My Uncle, Ramble On Rose, Playing In The Band, Cryptical Envelopment > Drums > The Other One > Me And Bobby McGee > The Other One > Wharf Rat, One More Saturday Night, E: Uncle John's Band


Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Felt Forum, Madison Square Garden
Location New York City, NY

Source Soundboard
Lineage MSR> DAT> CD
Taped by
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Notes

MSR> DAT> CD; via Seth Kaplan

Reviews

Reviewer: njpg - - December 7, 2012
Subject: Oh God,
check out Mr. Charlie! Anybody heard anything funkier anywhere?
Reviewer: CPourik - - February 26, 2012
Subject: Playin'
Great playin' in the band here, have not listened to the entire show, but will do. Rating based on tracks listened to.
Reviewer: audioresearch - - June 28, 2010
Subject: Thank you, Bear.
The screen name alone should fully discount, "Teabag69"'s review of this show. However, as his the first on display, I thought, just in case, I should help him fulfill the obvious intent of his posting, and as apple tends not to come to rest so far from it's tree, likely, his very raison de etre. The context recklessly supposed, in regard to Healy, is so utterly misinformed, as to strongly suggest the poster in question has not yet reached the age of majority, nor its cognative equivalent. What was the technology, what where the circumstances?...and the Bear, for all that the Bear was and is, this Teabag69 is like the master of a pit bull who thinks its "cool" to pour it nothing but malt liquor on a swealtering day in housing projects. That is to say, someone deserving of empathy, and perhaps, even reget for all that we couldn't do for him.

Bear is and does remain, unrealized, in our collective consciousness. Even McNally, who is surely a worthly chronicler, and someone, who should have known far better, found himself so far from the mark in regard to Bear...chemist, alchemist, underwriter, ad-hoc manager, artist, acoustician, financier, engineer, and to turn Emerson's phrase, benefactor, guide, redeemer...as to render an obvious injustice...however, the beauty of it is, his generosity, as well as that of so many who, don't popularly head-line, but yet quietly, courageously, and selflessly, gave/give all to keep the show going... Surely, even those of us who haven't yet bargained for the ticket and been ushered to, Frankin's Tower, or Desolation Row, or to the poker table in Abilene, or to Stephen's Garden, or at last or all, the time past believing, might be fortunate enough to appreciate, in our own way and respectfully, all that is involved with just the twinkling of a star, all that is involved with taking for those who didn't realize it then, what happened then, and projecting it to now...

As you approximate Bear's consciousness, or even fuller avenues available to you, you won't be you, it won't sound like "Bear's" recording...approximately, here will unfold the realization of the moment...here the contradiction blindly impressed into "Teabag69" resolves into the unknowing wonder of the gift...

Thank you, Bear.

Bear, here, as elsewhere, faithly rendered the transmission, the better question is: have you received it?
Reviewer: TeaBag69 - - March 20, 2010
Subject: Tough Period Sound-Wise
In reading the gap below between opinions in sound quality I wanted to just thjrow out there - late 1971 was a tough period for the band sound-wise. Healy had left, Owsley ahd been running things, and who knbows what the heck his ears woul dhear on any goiven night. For a little insight on this check out Rock Scully's book, healy talks about seeing the band at the Fekt Forum for the first time in a year ir two, and he commentced on how horrible they sounded. I have to agree. yes thse are decen tboards, esp for 1971, but the solid sound foundation simply was not there.

I still think the 5th is th ebest of this run, for what iot's worth, but I have always liked this show.
Reviewer: BVD - - January 1, 2008
Subject: first show
This was my first Dead show at the ripe old age of 17...needless to say I went back the next nite and again and again and again...you get it. How wonderful it is to go back in time and be able to re-live that wonderful lysergic experience...When Truckin opened the show two skeletons dropped from either side of the stage and a neon flashing behind the band reading GRATEFUL DEAD.Whew! I was on the bus from that point on...good clean show and Pig was still pretty healthy...Listening to it again I give it a 4 for quality...a 5 for nostalgia
Reviewer: Bird Creek, Alaska - - December 7, 2006
Subject: 12-6-71
35 years tonight. So clear you feel like you are there. I've come to no good, I knew I would.
Reviewer: SNIPER777 - - December 30, 2005
Subject: 12-6-71 & Felt Forum All Night's:
12-7-71 Band Smokin', Tight & Intricate Jamming, get all nights, last full year with/ Ron. Can't believe all the complaining about qualty...
This is 1971' reviews are for music. Stop Listening to music on a "Real" systen & i think you'll find these Recordings MORE Than Good.
I've had portions of these shows for 30 Years.
Didn't Complain then & I am not NOW!!!
Reviewer: Jon Blanton - - February 24, 2005
Subject: 12-06-71
Flawless, clear sound quality.

Great show. None of the jams really get boring, which is an excellent thing...at this point the band's line-up was still soaking up all its glory, with Pigpen still in. With more structured songs, Jerry took more of the spotlight, vs. some of those 66'-68' shows with stinging blues and Pigpen nearly fronting them, but his influence, along with every other members influence is still in there for good measure. And when he does step out, its always pleasent. (For an example of this, see the always groovy Mr. Charlie with an excellent Pigpen vocal. For the rest of his show he's tearing it up behind the organ...playing a bigger part in the overall sound then one might assume.)

This is literally at the quality of a release you'd buy at the store such as Steppin' Out With The Grateful Dead: England '72. So I certainly reccomend you at least give it a stream.

Let them play for you.
Reviewer: pnc - - January 21, 2005
Subject: Sounds good to me...
I consider myself a SBD snob...pretty much the sound quality is all I care about, as I always seem to find something great about a performance from this band. And maybe its b/c I'm listening through earbuds...but this sounds pretty damn good to me, especially for 1971.
Reviewer: dr. flashback - - January 15, 2005
Subject: Top Ten!!
One of my first collected SBD shows from 1971, and it's still one of my favs. All of these nights at the MSG Forum would make a nice box set wouldn't they? This may be their best night. Unlike some 71 shows, the band is tight and together tonight. Great versions of Loser, Truckin, Black Peter and Ramble On. Listen to Playin - you can already sense the expanded direction it will soon take in Europe 72 and beyond. As a matter of fact, listen to this show next to a Euro 72 one, and you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference. The band is that good here, and the sets are very similar. The Other One>B McGee>Other One sandwich explores nearly 30 minutes worth of sparkling playing, with Jerry, Phil and Keith really hooking up. 1971 was not really their psychedelic period, but you wouldn't know it from this version. It really smokes,with the two keyboards churning out tumbling rhythms and counterpoint to Jerry's soaring solo work. I can't believe no one yet reviewed this one? It's waiting to turn you on, folks. A must have for 1971 lovers.


New comments: I am listening as I write here, and I have to say this sounds as clean as any from 1971 that I've heard. Its lineage is MSB>Dat>Cd and it doesn't get any purer than that folks. Yes, there is intermittent distortion from Keith's piano mike throughout, as in 11/7/71, but that hasn't stopped folks from enjoying that one either. I have to remember that -
1. These are ALL shows from analog, hissy, masters.
2. These 1971 sources are 34 years old!
When I want technical squeaky clean, I go put on my Steely Dan. It would hard to pick 10 top shows from 1971 that DIDN'T have some flaws and minor hiss.
However, let me add that there ARE shows I will mention and review that do have serious sound quality problems, but that I still consider worth listening to sometimes. The shows 11/26/72 (high gen SBD,kinda muddy) and 3/21/73 (flood damaged Betty board, but great Dark Star).

enjoy this great show with refreshments!
Dr. Flashback ;-)
Reviewer: dirty jev-o - - November 3, 2004
Subject: maybe their best night?
maybe it was, but the more stuff i dl here, the more i want everyone to really review for SOUND QUALITY....mr.charlie is plauged by distorted piano problems...how many times will i listen to this one? probably not very much regardless of how great the band is here, {are they ever not good?} i have to give it 3 stars further listening-----cut at intro casey jones and more buzzing on kick drum yucky come on dr. listen listen listen i love archive.org!!!
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